Got Brainwashed? 5 Things to Consider Before Pouring Your Next Glass of Milk

A few months ago a friend called me and told me that her friend’s day care center had given her baby the wrong mother’s breast milk.  Her friend went to pick up her baby after work as well as the milk bottles she had supplied them with — only one problem, the milk bottles were still full.  So either her baby hadn’t had any milk that day or she drank someone else’s milk.  The woman working there looked into what could have happened and, low and behold, she drank someone else’s breast milk.  Disgusting!!!  Can you imagine the precious little light of your life drinking some unknown mother’s breast milk?  How freaking gross!  Who’s milk was it?  What medication is she on?  What germs or diseases does she have??  Are they communicable?  What kind of lifestyle does she live?  Drug user?  What can be passed on to my baby?!  So the mother, full of rage and disgust, pulled her baby out of that day care (and actually out of day care permanently) and demanded back the money she had paid up front for the entire year.  Does that seem like an appropriate response to you?  I bet most of you moms and dads out there would have had a very similar reaction if it was your little nugget who downed some stranger’s milk.

Well guess what, you drink and feed your family another mother’s milk every single time you pour them a glass of cow’s milk.  But it’s okay cause it’s cow’s milk right?  Let’s think about why that’s so okay but drinking another human mother’s breast milk isn’t.  Chances are that the human mom had taken a nice long shower that morning.  Hell, she probably even spritzed some nice perfume on herself before walking out the door.  She might have even had a good healthy breakfast.  She’d probably been to the doctor and even the dentist within the last year.  So hey, she’s looking better and better.  Maybe we should all be drinking some of her milk?  Nope, still gross.  Even in this best case scenario of an average healthy mom the thought is still pretty disgusting right?  If you think about it, aside from cow’s milk or goat’s milk, is there any other milk that you would find acceptable to drink?  How about gorilla’s milk?  Does that sound yummy?  Pour that over some cornflakes maybe?  How about elephant’s milk or seal’s milk or even horse’s milk.  Any of those tickle your fancy?  Probably not.  The thought of slugging down a cold glass of chocolate flavored gorilla’s milk probably just doesn’t sit well with you.  So why is cow’s milk okay?  Have we been brainwashed or is there just something different about a cow or a goat that makes their milk yummy and acceptable?

Let’s go back to our example and compare this average human mom to the average dairy cow.  I bet you that human mom doesn’t live covered in her own feces and urine and mud every single day of her life.  Probably not.  Well the diary cow at a factory farm does.  I bet you that human mom wasn’t genetically manipulated and pumped up with bovine growth hormone (BHG) (a hormone allowed in the US but banned in Europe and Canada) so that she can produce 10 times more milk than she would naturally.  The dairy cow is.  I bet you that mom’s breasts aren’t hooked up to machines every day that tear her skin and cause painful pussing sores.  The dairy cow’s is.  I bet you that mom gets daily exercise and isn’t confined to a tiny stall all day.  I bet you that mom isn’t impregnated over and over again to force her to keep producing milk.  I bet you that mom hasn’t been repeatedly ripped of her babies right after they’re born.  I bet you that mom’s body isn’t so thoroughly exhausted and abused that she can likely hardly walk by the time she’s shipped off to slaughter.  The dairy cow suffers from all of this and more.

But maybe all this is okay with you.  After all, we need milk right.  I mean, EVERYONE drinks it, it does a body good right?  Or do we just think we need it because people who make BILLIONS of dollars from you drinking it everyday have brainwashed you into believing it’s good for you by spending millions of dollars on advertising each year?  What may have started as a family-farmed-happy-healthy-hormone-and-anitbiotic-free-non-genetically-mutated-pasture-roaming source of an occasional glass of milk has turned into a milk-does-a-body-good-your-bones-will-fall-to-pieces-and-your-teeth-will-fall-out campaign.  Why did this happen?  Because we will all die without milk or because corporations figured out a money making equation — convince people that milk must be a part of their everyday diet and we’ll make BILLIONS of dollars so lets cram together millions of cows and make them produce insane quantities of milk by pumping those suckers up with whatever chemicals we can get away with!  Have we been so duped?  NNAAHH, that logic couldn’t be right. Milk’s gotta be good for you.  We’d be way too smart to get brainwashed like that right??  You wish.

I don’t write this to try and convince you to see things my way but more because it’s become so clear to me that people don’t question things enough.  I often see children being fed glass after glass of milk “because they need their calcium” and see people scowl at the thought of drinking soy milk “because it’s gross” and I can’t help but wonder how easily manipulated we all have been.  We drink cow’s milk not because it’s the healthiest for us or because of any genetic similarities between us and cows but simply because it can be produced in the largest quantity.  Because of this we’ve been told that it’s good for us, we need it and it’s totally normal to drink it and everything else is weird.  But how could drinking something pumped from a sick chemically injected tortured animal of a totally unrelated species be considered “delicious and healthy” but something from a natural plant source such as soy be considered gross?  That’s when I realized, as independently minded as most of us like to think we are, we have been given an agenda. And the people dishing out that agenda are way more concerned about their own profits than our health.  Don’t take my word for it but do your own research and decide for yourself what should be considered healthy and delicious and what should be considered gross.

One thing I have realized on my journey to healthy vegan eating is that the way your mind views what you’re putting in your mouth directly correlates with how good you think it tastes.  People think soy milk tastes gross because it’s foreign to them.  As a child I loved cow’s milk, I couldn’t get enough of it, but now I think tastes and even looks absolutely repulsive because I know all that goes into it.  Just watching other people drink it makes my stomach turn.  I have undone my previous programming.  Your brain is a powerful weapon in your food choices.  So use it responsibly and don’t be afraid to challenge the norm.

Here are 5 things you may want to keep in mind when it comes to drinking milk (for me, #5 is the most important):

1.  You are not a cow. Stop and take a look in the mirror.  What do you see?  Chances are you don’t see a baby cow, unless you have some serious self image issues.  If you happen to not be a baby cow, why are you drinking it’s mother’s milk?  If you really needed milk your entire life and there were no other sources of the vitamins it provides, then why do we only produce it for a very limited amount of time right after we have a baby?  Have we strayed so far from common sense to not realize that this might have been nature’s way of telling us that we can actually survive as adults without it?  As pointed out in Skinny Bitch (the book that kick started my switch from being a vegetarian to being a vegan), we are the only species on the planet that drinks milk from another species and that drinks milk during our adulthood.  Doesn’t that tell us something?  As the authors point out, cow’s milk exists to grow a 90 pound calf into a 2,000 pound cow over the course of 2 years and allows calfs to double their birth weight in only 47 days.  Do you really think that we were meant to be filling up on that?  Maybe if you want to be a 2,000 pound cow I guess.  How can it be that something so simple and full of common sense can be so overlooked by the masses?  Again, we were given an agenda and we drank it.

2.  You can get every vitamin found in milk from these sources. If you are worried about your calcium intake, how about just eating some veggies!  You can get everything you need in leafy greens (i.e., broccoli, kale, spinach), nuts, seeds and beans.

3.  Dairy cows are pumped with a lot of crap and suffer from a lot of diseases and infections.

Crap:  Dairy cows are pumped with growth hormones and antibiotics.  How else could they produce so much milk and how else would they stay alive in the deplorable conditions they are subjected to?  As documented by the Humane Farming Association, milk from hormone injected cows is likely to contain residues of more than 80 different drugs, many of them antibiotics, which contaminate baby formula, milk, cheese and other dairy products.  You are what you eat.  You are what you drink.

Cow Diseases and Infections found on Factory Farms:  Mastitis (a painful bacterial infection in cow udders that creates puss and bacterial secretions resulting from the affects of growth hormones), Bovine Leukemia Virus, Bovine Immunodeficiency Virus, Johne’s disease, Milk Fever, pneumonia, manure scald, ringworm, pinkeye, parasites, respiratory distress, pussy abscesses, etc., etc.

4.  There are so many yummy & healthy non-diary alternatives! There are an abundance of healthy, crap and disease free, natural alternatives — soy milk, almond milk and rice milk are my favorites.  If you’re feeling really aggressive, there’s even hemp milk (save this one for the dairy-free pros).

5.  Cows suffer unimaginable cruelty. My words would never do justice to the misery that diary cows experience at factory farms.  So I will leave you with this video footage.  They are disturbing but if you haven’t seen them already I challenge you to watch them from beginning to end because these cows deserve that much from you.  They are subjected to a miserable insufferable existence for the few years of life they are given before they are shipped off for slaughter.  All this to supply our world with endless amounts of their milk; milk that was meant for their babies, who they never get to be with (most of whom are turned into veal), but who they search, bellow and grieve for as any mother would for their young.  So while these videos may make you upset, you should be upset, and you should be educated about the price these cows pay for the milk they supply us with.  The abuses documented in the below videos have proven to be the norm NOT the exception for animals at factory farms.  Don’t let yourself be brainwashed by greedy corporations with images of happy cows who only care about their profits and who could give a crap about your health or the animals they exploit. You’re way too smart for that right?  Prove it.

Instead of contributing to this exploitation, visit a farm sanctuary and see what it’s like for these unique animals to live freely as nature intended.

Some highly recommended resources:

  • Skinny Bitch by Rory Freedman and Kim Barnouin (& their whole line of Skinny Bitch/Bastard books)
  • The Kind Life by Alicia Silverstone
  • Eating Animals by Jonathan Safran Foer

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62 Responses to Got Brainwashed? 5 Things to Consider Before Pouring Your Next Glass of Milk

  1. Luz says:

    I tried oat’s milk the other day it’s good if you like the creamy texture. If I want it less heavy i just add water or a bit of almond milk. This natural plant milk is delicious and nutricious and we don’t have to kill any animal for it. Thank you Liz once again I will forward you post to everybody i know.

    I cry everytime i see this video :(


    • lizzy says:

      Thank you Luz!! I’ve never tried oat’s milk so I gotta buy some. I like creamy textures so I’m sure that will be added to my favorites!

  2. Moncie says:

    That’s why I drink soy!!!! I read that pus from the wounds can leak into milk, so that’s another reason why I’m grossed out by it. Great blog and I hope it opens people’s eyes!!! What you are doing is amazing :)

    • lizzy says:

      Thanks Monc! You know you are my health food guru. & my source of some juicy stories :)

      • Maria says:

        Cows do not have wounds in their udder that leak puss. The machines that are used to milk cows also do not tear the skin. I have milked many of cows in my lifetime and many of farmers care for their cows just like their children. Therefore they are not living covered in their own feces and urine. You need to do better research before you post things like this.

        • lizzy says:

          Cows absolutely do have wounds that leak puss and this has be heavily documented. I am talking about factory farms here, not small family farms. I applaud small farms who take good care of their animals. And at factory farms, they absolutely do live covered in their feces and urine, this has also been heavily documented. I’ve done my research, perhaps you need to do yours. You can start with

        • simone says:

          I agree with Lizzy here. I was a very heavy milk drinker, until I began watching things about factory farms. They are a reality, a very sad reality, one everyone should be well aware of. This is in no way speaking of small dairy farmers, family owned type of farms these are mass farms with hundreds or thousands of cows its disgusting. has a lot of information about it as well. You definately need to get up to speed on this subject Maria.

  3. Angelica Del Villar says:

    First, CONGRATULATIONS on your new venture. You are an inspiration as a woman, an entrepreneur, but most importantly as a friend. I have known you for over a decade, and this company is a reflection of who you were when I met you and who you still are today. Congratulations on YOUR TIME TRAVELS, for having the courage to be you and for allowing everyone to be a part of this.

    Second, thank you for continuing to properly inform us. And I as read this entry I wanted to say NO MORE MILK. However, as much as I know everything you have written is correct and the right thing is to not consume any dairy products (or meat), I have to say that as a mom of a 2 year old with a meat-dairy loving husband it is extremely difficult to completely eliminate products that are hurting other beings. However, everyday I attempt to be more aware and minimize harmful products. I cannot say the same for my daugther and husband BUT one step at a time. I have lowered my meat and dairy intake by about 80% all because of your shared knowledge. So…. we are making progress…

    I love you and continue to keep us in the know :)

  4. MollyG says:

    What a wonderful, complete post about dairy. I wish I had written it myself! Think about all the people who read this and change their behavior accordingly. You are doing wonderful work for the animals!


  5. Cosmo Lee says:


    Great blog! Best of luck!

    I share your befuddlement over the cow milk ingesting populous. “Eww, it came from the teat of an animal!” If people actually took a moment to think about it, they’d be grossed out over it. Why don’t we drink pig’s milk? Their industry just doesn’t have effective marketers.

    As a person of Chinese descent, a society that doesn’t have dairy products in its diet, I find the concept of the all-important milk-in-your-diet bizarre. Asian cultures have gotten along for thousands of years without milk, thank you very much. The unquestioning ingestion of cow’s milk by the masses is truly a miracle of modern marketing and mass psychology.

    A similar thing happens with so many things. Orange juice. It’s a given that we should drink OJ with abandon and during all seasons. That’s, of course, without the attendant animal cruelty issues. Neckties? WTF?

    Society as a whole would benefit greatly if people would exercise more self-awareness and questioning of authority and social norms.

    Lily Tomlin has a great line which perfectly explains markets (stock, real estate, etc) and mass psychology: “Reality is nothing but a collective hunch.” Ie: if everybody else is doing it, it must mean it’s OK. I think a lot of people who got nailed in the Tech/Stock/Real Estate bubbles of late are rethinking that one…


    • lizzy says:


      Thanks so much for reading my blog. You make so many good points. It really is all about mass psychology and the people marketing their agenda rely on that. They’ve proven that they have no limits or moral barriers as long as they can make their money. It’s now up to consumers to create the changes this world needs. Good point about neckties ;)

  6. Erica says:

    This blog post is amazing! I drink soy milk because I’m lactose intolerant but your blog has truly given me a more profound reason to support milk alternatives. Thanks for posting other important sources of calcium as a non-dairy drinker I am constantly in search of ways to get enough calcium. Great work!

  7. jc says:

    red or blue pill?
    it’s always easier to let the matrix tell us the meat (or the milk in this instance) is juicy and delicious

    thank you for forcing us to challenge what we so readily accept
    why are clever and cute marketing campaigns (milk, eat more chicken) so much more influential than the gritty, honest, and real ones (smoking, unicef)?

    ignorance should not lead to ‘bliss’ as it requires an individual to ignore available information. people should search for happiness based on knowledge and get there as a result of deliberate choices

    thank you Lizzy

  8. k-smart says:

    liz, as a life long friend i wanted to show support. After reading on this topic i have a few comments. disclosure: although i in general and fundamentally hate all animals, the commentary to follow is not predicated on that.

    1. avg cow weight is less than 2000lbs (just to be specific). too compare a cow mother to a human mother is laughable at best, it’s an animal. just because she gave birth doesnt mean the same as in the human race. for a male dog that breeds with multiple female dogs…is he really a father? or would he be a dead beat dad? in the human race you’d probably call him a dead beat dad and some other explicitives. now you might say “kev that is nonsense, not comprable”. i say exactly, just like comparing cows to humans.

    2. its easier to feed children milk than leafy greens. people dont have time to rationalize wiith 2-5 r olds on why they shouldnt drink milk but eat lettuce. also, u cant cant mix nestle quick with leafy greens, even if u try, kids want chocolate milk. life is about convenience. do you walk everywhere you go or ride a bike? if not ur prob killing the cows with ur pollution….

    3. let the FDA worry about this, trust in their judgement, else u would drink water and eat berries from trees for the rest of your life, and probably find a reason why the berries are bad…

    4..u make a valid point…YOUR favorites, some folks want good old fashion milk, its their right. there are alternative to dogs, who can bite and harm people…. its called “techno, the electronic dog” available at walmart, target, kmart, toys r us, etc… ” this is an alternative to a very serious risk…”when aniimals attack is not pretty”.

    5. i reserve comment as this issue isnt right andwhile my jokes are funny to me, its dear to your heart and i know.

    all the best, congrats…see you guys soon….

    • lizzy says:


      I wasn’t expecting a response of this nature so early in my advocacy. It’s taken me some time to respond because it was hard to digest and respond back without letting my emotions get the best of me. After some reflection I can acknowledge that your opinions are valid, as they are your beliefs, and they likely reflect those of much of our country. I can only hope that my response will help broaden your perspective on this subject.

      1. It’s sad for me to hear someone say a mother animal doesn’t experience the same love for her babies as a human mother. Those words could only be said by someone who has little experience with animals and truly does not understand them, or who, as you say, hates them. Every animal species is different and raises their young differently. There are many animal species who mate for life and remain monogamous and there are also species whose young live with their parents for life. Each species has their own sets of rules and codes of conduct. Mothers of all animals have the same innate love and bond for their babies that a human mother feels and the same innate instinct to protect that young – that is the essence of animal instinct. You only need to spend a day with a mother animal and her babies to see that. But as Moncie pointed out, that was absolutely not the point of my argument. The point of the argument, in case you’re still missing it, was that we, as a species, DO NOT NEED to drink cow’s milk, despite all the propaganda telling us otherwise.

      2. I have not had the privilege of having children of my own yet so my personal experience is only though watching my friends with their children and watching how the children in my and my husband’s families have grown up. I’ve learned enough to see that children are a reflection of their parents, to a certain extent. After all, when they are very young it’s the parents who make the choices for them – it’s obviously not the 2 year old who does the grocery shopping. So parents who buy Quick and give it to their children every day will raise children who demand Quick every day – I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, all I’m saying is that it’s the parents who made that decision, not the child. Parents obviously put tons of restrictions on their children all day long or children would be running across the street into traffic whenever they felt like it. It’s up to each set of parents to determine what restrictions are important based on the values those parents hold. So you can’t say that people “don’t have time” to rationalize with a 2 – 5 year old over something as important as their baby’s health. What you mean is that this isn’t important to you, so you wouldn’t make time for it in your life. That’s your decision and your prerogative.

      3. It’s hard to believe someone could honestly say “let the FDA worry about this, trust in their judgment”. Do you really think that special interest groups that bring in billions of dollars do not have any influence over governmental bodies? There’s a reason why cigarettes are legal despite being proven to be deadly. The FDA is a governmental body with limited resources and a lot of tough decisions to make. To rely solely on them to determine what’s healthy and what’s not puts way too much power in an organization that is stretched too thin and has too many conflicting influences to consider when making its decisions. To say we should rely blindly on an organization of this nature with a clear track record of making decisions that have been detrimental to human health either shows a lack of knowledge on this subject or a lack of interest in anything health related.

      4. You have the right to drink as much “good old fashion milk” as your heart desires. I would never have the power to take that right from you. I’m sorry if that right felt threatened by my statements.

      5. I’m glad you were able to show some restraint on this issue, much appreciated.

      So while I greatly appreciate your support in reading my blog, if you truly have no interest in animal welfare or healthy living it’s unlikely we’ll have a meeting of the minds. Absolutely no one is perfect, I’m definitely not, but I try my best to do what’s right even if that means taking a stand against accepted practices. Personally I feel we should all keep an open mind and always question things based on our own research and morals instead of just following “the norm”. While traditions and customs can be a wonderful thing, history has shown us time and time again that sometimes it’s good to question the principals they were based on so we can advance as a society.


    • Kelly says:

      Your number 2 point caught my eye. Rubbish!! My son who is 3, of his own accord, will sit doing puzzles while chomping on lettuce or spinach. He also has a smoothie everyday with spinach in it or some other green – he chooses. I never force him, he likes having this daily. He also will not eat a sandwich unless it has some form of leaf in it plus veggies.

      My son has also never had chocolate and never requested it when he sees others eating it. Instead he has coconut balls (dates, cashews, some spices, sometimes carob blended then rolled in coconut).

      I think its a lot harder if you have started your child off on the wrong foot but green smoothies (fruit and greens blended) are something many kids like despite their previous diet. Children can be quite open to change as well if its gradual and I have seen countless examples of parents who have found transitioning their kids to a healthier diet a breeze.

  9. Moncie says:

    Nice. That’s how you support “lifelong” friends? Your definition of friend must be different than mine.
    Totally cool that you hate animals, I hate douches. To each their own.
    Your first comment doesn’t address the issue Liz was raising. Liz was making a comparison between the two in terms of consumption of milk. If you want to discuss the genetic makeup of both cows and humans – and how for some reason drinking milk from another species is not the same as drinking milk from your own species – that’s an argument I would like to hear. But your current argument, as you correctly identified, is nonsense.
    As for your second point, attitudes like yours are the reason for the obesity epidemic in this country. My friend Kim has made a point to feed her daughter only healthy food (plenty of fruits and veggies) and never gives her sugar. Let me tell you, a baby will actually request broccoli if she is raised right. I’ve seen it myself. I can say with absolute conviction that her baby has never, nor will ever, request Quik.
    Maybe you should do some research on the standards set by the FDA. If you were informed at all, you’d actually understand that they don’t always have the consumer’s best interest in mind.
    I don’t seem to recall Liz saying that a person’s right to drink milk should be taken away. She’s doing something admirable by trying to educate people. Maybe you should re-read her post before jumping to conclusions.

    GREAT BLOG LIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  10. ValSee says:

    Really great post, Liz! And congrats on your amazing endeavor–super inspiring and motivating.

    As for this post, you said it just right I thought. It’s hard to grasp the concept sometimes how certain things we’ve grown up with, and never really questioned, could possibly be hurtful to others (the poor cows), oh…and ourselves. I have been an “off and on again” vegetarian for well over ten years, (still ate chicken/fish) and in the past three yrsI’ve given up all meat but still drink milk in my coffee and eat cheese. occasionally. I just never found a good substitute, it’s always been my excuse, but today I’m thinking “why do I need a substitute?”. If I learned to like milk in my coffee, I’m sure I can learn to drink it black–why not! And cheese, well…it might be a bit more of a struggle, but I’m up for the challenge. It’s one of those things I’ve realized has been drilled into my head to believe is tasty and normal. And yeah, I guess according to popular belief it is normal. You really made me question it harder this time, and I’m very thankful! I have had a really hard time speaking of my choices on being vegetarian to people–they don’t want to hear what they are doing, and what they’ve done for all their life–is hurtful. I also don’t ever want to be preachy, because I do believe everyone has the right to choose for themselves, but it would be nice if more people would actually educate themselves before making these decisions. I know I’m not perfect, nor do I think I will be from not eating meat, but common!!…we need to stop ignoring these issues and sweeping them under the rug.

    So, back to the topic at hand…I just bought some almond milk and tofu spread and am quite excited to try something new. I looked for oat milk (because I do like creamy!) but couldn’t find it at Fairway…maybe Whole Foods?

    Thanks again Liz, and I look forward to many more exciting, interesting and eye opening posts!

    Ps- Have you read “The Face On Your Plate” by Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson ? If not you should pick it up!

    • lizzy says:

      Val, thank you so much for reading my post! I totally appreciate how hard it is to stick to vegetarianism and I also used to often worry that I would make people feel uncomfortable with my opinions. In general I think I’m pretty easy going about most things (some people may disagree!). I like to go with the flow and put other people’s interests before mine, so for a time it was hard for me to take such a strong stand that went so against the grain. But after awhile I accepted that this was THAT important to me and that maybe it’s okay if people are a little uncomfortable because even if it doesn’t change their behavior, it at least leads them to give it some thought, instead of just blindly continuing on. I love it when someone challenges me to notice an issue I hadn’t thought of so I figure it’s okay to do that to people sometimes. & I find that most people want to learn more about why you make the food choices you do so you really don’t have to be preachy, you can simply place a food order and people will ask you why you ordered that way and that leads to a natural discussion. Lately I’ve been so amazed at just how much people really want to talk about this stuff, it’s awesome!

      Hope you enjoy your almond milk and tofu spread!! I never see oats milk either, but I bet Whole Foods has it. I also shop at Fairway and have no Whole Foods near me.

      I will have to get a copy of that book, you’re the second person to recommend it to me this week!

      Thanks again for reading and for your support!

  11. coffee gift says:

    Wow that is a great article.. I’ m enjoy it.. good post

  12. Anthony says:

    Fantastic blog my friend…keep writing and making a difference!

  13. mercedes benz c class says:

    Can I just say what a relief to find someone who actually knows what theyre talking about on the internet. You definitely know how to bring an issue to light and make it important. More people need to read this and understand this side of the story. I cant believe youre not more popular because you definitely have the gift.

  14. Matthews vizilite says:

    I wrote a paper on this in College, had i had your capability to articulate my thoughts and research, I may possibly have received a better grade. Good Job!

  15. livelybrowsers says:

    Thanks for good stuff

  16. seanlopez says:

    Good article

  17. badmash says:

    I just signed up to your blogs rss feed. Will you post more on this subject?

  18. mackdaniel says:

    this was a really nice post, thanks

  19. A Deaf Pundit says:

    You forget that cow’s milk is pasteurized. So all of the germs and nasty stuff are killed. However, that mother’s breast milk is NOT pasteurized.

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  21. KimmieD says:

    I fortuitously just found you on Kris Carr’s site… I love what you are doing and I can’t wait to book a family vacation through you, to open up the world for my kids through a life changing experience like one of your adventures… Also, I have been a vegetarian now for a bit.. but just couldn’t give up the cheese or cream in my coffee…Your article is informative and very thorough…and it was just what I needed to make the final shift… I am super excited to follow your journey and to connect at some point! Well done.. keep spreading the word… ; )

    • lizzy says:

      Hey Kimmie! I’m glad my article inspired you some, I know how hard it is, I really do. I was a dairy eating vegetarian for 10 years. Would love to connect with you and would love to send your family on an adventure. Contact me anytime :)

  22. Jennifer Budner says:

    Fantastic article Liz. Cut dairy out a while ago (although not 100% yet) and struggle with the loss of cheese… this article will give me something else draw from when I’m reaching for some freshly made mozzerella.

    Thanks and I look forward to reading more on your blog. Best of luck to you.

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  24. SL says:

    I am in total agreement of ensuring that the lives of animals are respected and not abused. However, I couldnt even finish reading this article because it was irritating how they compared feeding a baby milk from another human mother (yuck!) or from an animal. I would be horrified by the things a human mother may pass on to my child because she is human and could have human infections. But we are less likely to be infected by a disease of another species (dont have the same cell receptors). So the threat is lower (though I know still possible). I felt that comparison was intentially misleading!

    • lizzy says:

      Hi SL,

      I really appreciate your comments and thoughts. I totally hear what you’re saying. The point of this article was really about how our minds perceive what we drink more than it was about any germs that go into it. I think if you had continued to read the whole article you might have realized that.

      Milk gets pasturized so by no means was I meaning to imply that you’re drinking in all the germs the cows live with. However, from my research, the milk is affected by the hormones and antibiotics that the cows are injected with. Even if human milk (or another random animal’s milk) was pasturized and germ free, personally, I couldn’t stomach to drink it.

      But again, as implied by the title, this article was about our minds and how, whether or not we realize it, we’ve been trained to see certain things as acceptable, and other things as not. In the end, it’s the cows who suffer.

      Thank you again for your feedback.

  25. Edyta says:

    Wonderful wonderful post. Thank you for writing this! You write so beautifully and speak from the heart. Thank you for being such a wonderful animal advocate and for sharing your passions, beliefs and knowledge. I am so happy we connected!! Have a wonderful weekend. :)

    xo ~Edyta

  26. Sam says:

    I love the stile and the effort put into this article, I admire your passion. It is a shame it total misses the point, is inaccurate and side steps a lot of evidence for long teem milk drinking.

    I will use one piece of evidence to illustrated our long teem and persistent relationship with cows (and sheep and goats) milk and that is Lactose intolerance (LI from now on). See

    Lactose intolerance is the inability to brake down the sugar lactose. This is cased by the ‘switching off’ of the gene that makes lactase, the enzyme that brakes down lactose. In adulthood this is switched off as it is no longer ‘needed’ and thus the person can not metabolize lactose.

    Now in populations with a history of milk drinking this gene is switched on again by normal natural selection. If you look at map (see above link) of the percentage of people in a region with LI it varies massively and is a direct reflection of the amount of time milk has been used.

    To put it another way, our genes (certainly if you are European) have been change by 1000′s of years of drink milk it is in our genes (literately). Drinking animal milk has change us at the core, our DNA. It is NATURAL and this is direct evidence that it is not ‘Brian Washing’ but part of the European make up (note this is not the case in a lot of Asia and Africa). The tenant of your is there for dead.

    Also rock on with the Gorilla milk why not? I’ll give it a go.

    You animal welfare is clearly significant but do not conflate it with natural or brainwashing. Do not confuse the issues and be emotive with your arguments it devalues your whole argulent.

    Please read the link above for further proof of our long history of milk drinking and how it has changed our genes

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  28. Rebecca says:

    Just wanted to let you know this is a good post and I was impressed by your professional responses amidst conflicting views, which I very much respect. I’m a huge advocate for doing your own research, as no one holds your best interest more than you will for yourself and family. With that in mind, for those who are not so easily weaned, I may suggest looking into and getting to know the diary farmers in their area and question them on their milking practices. And do not let the seal of organic fool you either, organic doesn’t mean the cows are treated ethically. Getting to know your farmer will ensure that your not supporting a sociopath as demonstrated in the video.

    • lizzy says:

      Hey Rebecca,

      Thanks so much for saying that, I really appreciate it. This is definitely a touchy subject, much touchier than I expected when I wrote this to be honest. Great point about getting to know your farmer, so much is hidden from us so that would be the only way to ensure you know what you’re supporting, assuming people are willing to make that effort. Personally, I find it easier to just buy healthier plant based substitutes but everyone has to find their own path. Thanks for leaving such a great comment Rebecca!

  29. Hannah says:


    I loved your blog. I am a huge animal activist. I give talks at high schools about animals that go from the paddock to the plate. I tell the kids how things really happen without all the graphic parts of course and believe me, If your so called friend Ksmart actually saw any of the footage of a bobby calf she may think about giving Quik with milks. Im sure a 2-3 yr old wouldnt know the difference between real milk or soy anyway. Animals DO feel pain and anguish for their young. As someone said before.. or youtube.. footage does not lie.

    But back to the issue at hand. It never ceases to amaze me watching people consume another species breast milk and i have to say when i went through my transition (as i like to call it) i did a lot of research to get my facts straight, so much so i got depressed for 3 moths. My vegan friends tole me i had to stop looking at footage.

    Anyway. I would love to chat more with you on the topic..
    Thank you for posting it.

    • Liz says:

      Hey Hannah,

      Thanks for your comment. I’d love to hear more about the work you do at high schools, that sounds awesome. I’m thinking about planning some animal welfare trips abroad for high schools so if you know of any that would be open to that type of experience that’d be wonderful.

      I get really depressed watching this stuff too, it got to a point where I had to take a break as well. It’s overwhelming.

      All the best to you Hannah!

  30. Lisa Abejja says:


    I’m sure God has a very special place in hell for these disgusting people

  31. Hannah says:

    are you on Facebook

  32. Hannah says:

    i added you .. i hope its the right person

  33. Cindy says:

    In addition to being able to obtain the nutrients found in cow’s milk from other sources (leafy greens, nuts, seeds and beans), our bodies will absorb those nutrients more efficiently from these sources than from cow’s milk.

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